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Scott Sumner's avatar

Everyone: In the past, I would have responded to some of the more poorly reasoned pro-Trump comments. But, well . . . life's too short.

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Nicholas Weininger's avatar

Re your question "what exactly are they fighting about?", I would point to two factors:

1. Information polarization. I have been phone banking for Harris for awhile now, and earlier on we were calling voters whose allegiances we didn't know yet, and got a bunch of Trump supporters. One of those said to me, in all seriousness, that Trump was "an honest man and a Christian man". She clearly had some information environment that caused her to believe that, and it's mysterious to most of us in the reality-based community how a functional adult could be in such an environment. This may be an outlier example, but when it comes to basic empirical questions like "what happened on January 6th, 2021" there are clearly deep disagreements over facts, not just values.

2. Character polarization. Trump is such an obviously and extraordinarily hideous person that to the blueish half of the country, it is clear that no decent, civilized voter could possibly support him. Yet here's the reddish half of the country supporting him anyway! It is enough to make you lose trust in the moral character, mental capacity, and, well, general trustworthiness of your fellow citizens, in a way that no policy dispute would be. Living in a country where half of the people have shown themselves to be capable of supporting such a person is scary, and that fear drives the anger at places like Rossmoor-- as, no doubt, does the resentment of the reddish folks at being considered morally and/or mentally defective for their choice of presidential candidate.

And the sad thing is that there is no result of this election which will make that mutual resentment and fear go away. We are like spouses who have battered each other physically and psychologically, can see no path to reconciliation given what we have suffered and what we've learned about each other, and can't get a divorce. Have a nice day, as Arnold Kling would say.

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