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Nikolai Efimov's avatar

Justin Trudeau said "There is no core identity, no mainstream in Canada." As a Canadian, and no great fan of Trudeau, I think this is absolutely true. This sentiment tends to make some Canadians upset because they want to have something to unite around as a team, especially something to distinguish us from the US, but I have never found any description of a shared Canadian identity convincing after looking hard to find one. Our regional cultures are overwhelmingly influenced by the flood of high-quality media from the 'States and the porous border.

Trudeau called Canada "the first post-national state," but I see it as also possible we're a "pre-national state." So far, we've been too sparse and spread out over much too large an area to cohere into anything uniform. As our population increases, maybe we'll have specific uniform characteristics in a hundred years, maybe less, but I can't guess what those might be. They'll probably be influenced by the current waves of immigration and what those immigrants choose to preserve of their native culture.

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I live in Vancouver, and have lived in Ottawa, Ontario, and Saskatchewan as well.

The west feels much closer to America than the east. Virtually every Canadian story, symbol, or stereotype is from Ontario, Quebec, and to a lesser extent the Atlantic provinces. To really “feel” Canada you have to be out east (but outside Toronto, which feels more international). All of my fellow westerners will remark on this.

It’s still quite indistinguishable from America though.

As to why we are more poor: as someone who works in software sales for a US company, one of the very few ways that Americans are notably different is their risk-tolerance. A key example is their willingness to just make a decision and move on. Canadians will spend (backed by stats at my last few companies) 50% longer making the decision, and hedge towards the safer, cheaper option. I suspect this also translate to entrepreneurialism and willingness to relocate for work.

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