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I think the problem with dismissing the taxing explanation for fiat currency’s value by reference to bitcoin is that bitcoin isn’t a currency, in any way. Its evangelists wanted to claim that it was (or would be) way back when, but they’ve given up on that. Primarily because a currency has to be useful to transact in. And bitcoin is inherently unsuited to that purpose because it’s super volatile.

So its evangelists pivoted to it being an investment. And that doesn’t hold up either, because an investment is generally a claim on a productive asset— a fixed cash flow or future dividends (or the asset side of the balance sheet in a liquidation). Perhaps you can analogize it to gold, which mostly has value because it isn’t always super correlated to other asset classes, but even then, a chunk of gold’s value is that it can be used to make pretty jewelry and tooth fillings and another chunk is that we have millennia of inertia telling us that it has value, neither of which bitcoin has.

So we’re left with it having value because there are still greater fools around who think its value will go up (and also criminals accept it as tender for money laundering). Which is probably the most generous case you can make for it.

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yeah, we've been hearing "bubble" since 2013.

The price of gold in 2013 was 1600-1700. It's now close to 5000. That is a 300%+ increase in 12 -13 years. 25% annually. Not bad.

In 2013, price of bitcoin was 300 dollars. You and your economists screamed "bubble".

It's 90,000. Do the math.

There is no better performing asset than bitcoin, because it's more than a hedge against inflation.

It's a movement, created by libertarians, and now adopted by more than 200M people, to destroy the banking industry. And that movement is growing because people love the idea of liberty. Corporations want it, individuals want it, the only obstacle is monetary economists, bankers, and their lobbyists. But lobbyists will not help you, because we designed it to resist lobbying and regulation of any kind.

You cannot defeat decentralized blockchains. It wins economically and politically.

faster and more secure.

better economics, because most blockchains have a fixed supply, but even those that don't have a mathematically predictable inflation rate. (i.e, x amount of tokens issued each year.)

no keys. no coins. Good luck enforcing your regulation when you cannot gain access to anyone's wallet.

it's more equitable. you can place your money into a liquidity pool, just like a brokerage does, and actually earn money on the spread. You can also receive interests rates on your deposit that are vastly greater than any bank can provide, because you eliminate them as the middle-man. It's peer to peer. You can be your own bank.

I'm aware that one of the retards working at the BIS said blockchain is not independent. This is moronic, and just shows how tech illiterate central bankers are. I'd be shocked if he uses more than one finger to type on a keyboard.

Nobody has centralized control over the blockchain. Even XRPL, which has a more centralized architecture than bitcoin's blockchain, is still WAY MORE DECENTRALIZED and therefore independent than the Fed will ever be.

Simply put: nobody wants a public/private partnership over the money supply, except for bankers, monetary economists, and weirdos who spend 1M to attend the World Economic Forum, talk nonsense, and try to "plan an agenda" for the rest of us.

Which of course benefits them at the expense of everyone else.

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